NS Cliches: Rebooted

by **Gandoor** » Fri Apr 29, 2022 12:04 pm

Y'all seen that one user who's trying to get chill/chat threads unbanned and is calling for help with loopholes in the site rules, legal education, or loopholes in the final ruling that banned them?

All I gotta say to that shit is:

by **The African Emirates** » Fri Apr 29, 2022 12:04 pm

Gandoor wrote:Y'all seen that one user who's trying to get chill/chat threads unbanned and is calling for help with loopholes in the site rules, legal education, or loopholes in the final ruling that banned them?

All I gotta say to that shit is:
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Shush, we're talking about frogs

by **Gandoor** » Fri Apr 29, 2022 12:05 pm

Frogs are non-canon.

by **Fahran** » Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:14 pm

Free Stalliongrad wrote:What if ponies just want to come over for tea? There is not only war.

Trust me. You do not need to tell the girl who spends most of her time writing slow-burn diplomatic role-plays, romance subplots, and biographies for epic and lyrical poets that RPs can accommodate more than war. I literally built my nation to horseypost. lol

I mostly mentioned the flank-canon because it was the most clever and immersion-breaking technology I've ever seen in an MT setting. Given NS tends to be angled towards national role-plays, things like sapient ponies, magic, elves, etc. can really break the immersion of some settings.

Free Stalliongrad wrote:Seriously, warnings in OPs are pretty much a must if you don't want certain players in your realistic RP. Rather, I would get mad at those who leave RP open to all, but if they attract too many pony / furry nations they start getting vague, perhaps even abandoning the thread.

I tend to agree. That said, open RPs that accommodate all sorts of zany hijinks can be fun at times. It just depends on what a person wants. If you don't want ponies or furries in your RP, that's understandable - for the reasons I've mentioned before. You can just make a note of it in a thread or reject applications accordingly. I think the issue in the past was that folks were trying to fit ponies into hard MT settings. Or else folks were trolling folks by posting "lol i build glue factory and genocide purple ponies."

Free Stalliongrad wrote:Although I never understood why they exclude non-human characters but humanoid ones don't. Or nations that are great empires and enjoy a vast territory and maybe yours also has a large territory, so much so that it even shares some territory. For example as if you were the Oceania of "1984" (which includes the Americas, Australia, and Great Britain) and one day I would declare war on the British Empire. How would you justify this?

Different nations, regions, and settings operate on different logic. Some of that logic is questionable.

Free Stalliongrad wrote:The only solution for nations like mine is either to wait for some "similar" nation willing to RP together or to find someone they don't care about realism and wants to role-play just to do something fun, regardless of who gets into it.

This is actually a good justification for regional RPs or bringing back the old zany open RPs that used to be pretty common.

by **Fahran** » Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:19 pm

Gandoor wrote:In that case you just, you know, report the thread/poster instead of complaining about it here in the NS circlejerk thread.

You can post some pretty questionable stuff while remaining within the rules. I don't see why people shouldn't complain when another person is like "I sell 17 yo girls as slaves" or "I has capturd many negroes and want to sale them pls." Mind you, the better option is to fire ignore-canons and not feed those sorts of RPs, but I get wanting to complain about it.

by **Gandoor** » Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:23 pm

I mean when the person who was doing the complaining was constantly acting like these threads are taking over the boards or thinking that RPing a nation that does bad stuff means you must support that stuff IRL (or just be a troll), I think it's a fair complaint about the complaints.

by **Perikuresu** » Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:25 pm

Gandoor wrote:Y'all seen that one user who's trying to get chill/chat threads unbanned and is calling for help with loopholes in the site rules, legal education, or loopholes in the final ruling that banned them?

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by **The Jamesian Republic** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:35 pm

NS Cliche that I’ve seen recently, slaveholding RPs. I’ve seen them a lot lately. Any reasons why?

by **Karazicu** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:45 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:NS Cliche that I’ve seen recently, slaveholding RPs. I’ve seen them a lot lately. Any reasons why?

mate i believe we were just """""""extensively""""""" discussing that (by that i mean spumming around about it)

check the previous page

by **The Jamesian Republic** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:50 pm

Karazicu wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:NS Cliche that I’ve seen recently, slaveholding RPs. I’ve seen them a lot lately. Any reasons why?

mate i believe we were just """""""extensively""""""" discussing that (by that i mean spumming around about it)

check the previous page

Oh. Never mind. I just thought of it and I wanted to post on here.

by **Gandoor** » Mon May 02, 2022 9:33 am

Which is more mildly annoying?
- When someone ninjas you in a thread and doesn't edit their post so they're replying to you.

- When someone makes a non-participation post in a thread and ends it with '/skipme' (or some variation thereof) and the next poster ignores that and still replies to them anyways, skipping your post?

by **Continental Free States** » Mon May 02, 2022 9:37 am

Gandoor wrote:Which is more mildly annoying?
- When someone ninjas you in a thread and doesn't edit their post so they're replying to you.

- When someone makes a non-participation post in a thread and ends it with '/skipme' (or some variation thereof) and the next poster ignores that and still replies to them anyways, skipping your post?

when someone ninja's me to respond to the skipme above my post. It's happened more than I'd like to think.

by **Soviet Progonya** » Tue May 03, 2022 1:41 am

Gandoor wrote:Which is more mildly annoying?
- When someone ninjas you in a thread and doesn't edit their post so they're replying to you.

- When someone makes a non-participation post in a thread and ends it with '/skipme' (or some variation thereof) and the next poster ignores that and still replies to them anyways, skipping your post?

Probably the first, because if you have an AN thread no one is obligated to reply to a skipme and/or non participant post, but if someone ninjas me its a bad spot because there are now two ANs. If I got stillme, the guy below me wont get replied to and will be pissed off.

Actually the latter one might have a similar problem.

by **Afrikan Staat** » Tue May 03, 2022 5:25 am

This is a cliche on nearly all my puppets now, and I can't say the same about the rest of NS, but: factbooks becoming structured more and more of the characteristics of a news article. Especially on factbooks where I spent the most time on.

I've been thinking about this, and I think I know the reason why: news organizations has spent the last decades designing and optimizing their UI/UX and paragraphing for maximum readability, even for attention-deficient people. Meaning that the more I want to increase readership retention, the more it naturally looks like a news article written by idk BBC News. (Although Warhammer 40k wiki is an ever better example due to their narrative style).

by **Aikoland** » Thu May 05, 2022 6:28 pm

People who continue their arguments in Moderation threads lol.

by **Afrikan Staat** » Thu May 05, 2022 6:43 pm

Aikoland wrote:People who continue their arguments in Moderation threads lol.

Surprisingly I haven't seen many [R]s appearing on the (forum recommendation place) in the last few months. They used to be dime a dozen.

by **Godular** » Thu May 05, 2022 7:12 pm

Afrikan Staat wrote:
Aikoland wrote:People who continue their arguments in Moderation threads lol.

Surprisingly I haven't seen many [R]s appearing on the (forum recommendation place) in the last few months. They used to be dime a dozen.

It’s a slow period. It has its moments.

Another cliche: people who pop into report threads to give editorial commentary about whether something is actionable.

The novelty is when they double down after getting warned for it.

by **Aikoland** » Thu May 05, 2022 7:14 pm

Bring back people putting in MODS ONLY in their Moderation thread titles tbh.

by **Fahran** » Fri May 06, 2022 7:11 am

1. RPing young, attractive characters. Guilty.

2. RPing monarchies through the lens of Reign. Double guilty.

by **Remulia** » Fri May 06, 2022 10:24 am

Fahran wrote:1. RPing young, attractive characters. Guilty.

2. RPing monarchies through the lens of Reign. Double guilty.

I have those sins, too.

by **UIJ** » Fri May 06, 2022 11:00 am

Fahran wrote:1. RPing young, attractive characters. Guilty.

2. RPing monarchies through the lens of Reign. Double guilty.

Attractive people and anyone under 40 in government positions is the single most unrealistic part of NS

by **Gonswanza** » Fri May 06, 2022 11:04 am

UIJ wrote:
Fahran wrote:1. RPing young, attractive characters. Guilty.

2. RPing monarchies through the lens of Reign. Double guilty.

Attractive people and anyone under 40 in government positions is the single most unrealistic part of NS

Tbh it's still better than trying to force realism upon everyone you meet regardless of what the forum or topic is.

Especially on a site based on a work of fiction.

by **Aikoland** » Fri May 06, 2022 11:05 am

Sometimes I feel like my leaders for this nation and Gandoor are too young being in their 40s but then I remember that there're tons of people on this site who think having someone being elected as leader when they're still a teenager or in their early 20s makes perfect sense. (I'm 99% confident that those types of leaders are just self-inserts of the player behind the account tbh)

by **Gonswanza** » Fri May 06, 2022 11:23 am

Aikoland wrote:Sometimes I feel like my leaders for this nation and Gandoor are too young being in their 40s but then I remember that there're tons of people on this site who think having someone being elected as leader when they're still a teenager or in their early 20s makes perfect sense. (I'm 99% confident that those types of leaders are just self-inserts of the player behind the account tbh)

Ehh... If my leader were a self insert they'd be a mary sue adored by all, not some deranged psychopath with people following her blindly out of either fear or propaganda. Or both.

by **Dayganistan** » Fri May 06, 2022 11:36 am

UIJ wrote:
Fahran wrote:1. RPing young, attractive characters. Guilty.

2. RPing monarchies through the lens of Reign. Double guilty.

Attractive people and anyone under 40 in government positions is the single most unrealistic part of NS

Maybe if you're trying to run a proper democracy it's unrealistic. If you're running an authoritarian state it can be a little more realistic though, i.e. the previous authoritarian leader only trusts his child to take over for him like in Syria or North Korea. Even in democracies it's not exactly unheard of either for someone under the age of 40 to hold a high ranking position though.

I recently did a retcon on my nation's leadership for the leader to now be early 30s. I feel like there's storyline potential for young, inexperienced leader forced to take the reigns of a non-democratic state. Most people just do young leaders to have some mary sue child prodigy though.

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